From: Richard Davis [mailto:RichardJDavis1971@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:51 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: INXS: INXS²


Is it just me or is there too much silence over INXS² ?

I've been a fan for 17 years and will continue to be a fan for years to 
come, but for the first time ever, I actually feel a bit non-plussed about 
an INXS release. And it's nothing to do with it being another compilation, 
because I looked forward to the releases of SLID Anthology and 
Definitive/The Years.

So why do I feel non-plussed ? Because nobody has sparked my imagination 
about it. With little more than a month before it's released - no 
tracklisting or artwork - just a release date and an online buying link.

As has been said on the official messageboard, INXS² is designed to fill the 
gap before the new studio album arrives (which is fine - better to have 
something 'new' than nothing at all).

But I can only see it being bought by the hardcore fans though - those who 
continue to visit the  official site, and it might be an impulse buy for the 
odd Australian shopper who actually visits a record shop. But I honestly 
can't see it attracting younger fans who listen to dance/remixed music.

So what have the band got to lose by releasing some info to the FANS, 
because when all is said and done, it is a fan only release. In which case, 
why not involve the fans as it will generate more interest amongst them when 
it comes to being released.

I seem to remember a competition on INXS.com where fans were invited to 
submit artwork. Another where fans selected their (fantasy) tracklisting and 
an album title. If it's a remix album, why not get fans to submit their 
bedroom remixes for the band to personally select from. Some of the bedroom 
remixes I've downloaded from Napster and Kazaa were better than some of the 
officially sanctioned remixes.

Iron Maiden did a fans 'Best Of' album and it went down a storm (Ed Hunter)

Am not trying to be critical here, just trying some constructive arguament 
on what has become a relatively stagnant mailing list that needs life 
breathing back into it.

Over and out
Rich

From: pablo sepzlveda Trueba [mailto:paulfiction@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:08 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: INXS2


I am completely agree I am a huge fan, since 1990 (golden years) but now the situation its totally different years of confusion,obscurity and nonsense.

Richard Davis <RichardJDavis1971@hotmail.com> wrote:Is it just me or is there too much silence over INXS2 ?

I've been a fan for 17 years and will continue to be a fan for years to 
come, but for the first time ever, I actually feel a bit non-plussed about 
an INXS release. And it's nothing to do with it being another compilation, 
because I looked forward to the releases of SLID Anthology and 
Definitive/The Years.

So why do I feel non-plussed ? Because nobody has sparked my imagination 
about it. With little more than a month before it's released - no 
tracklisting or artwork - just a release date and an online buying link.

As has been said on the official messageboard, INXS2 is designed to fill the 
gap before the new studio album arrives (which is fine - better to have 
something 'new' than nothing at all).

But I can only see it being bought by the hardcore fans though - those who 
continue to visit the official site, and it might be an impulse buy for the 
odd Australian shopper who actually visits a record shop. But I honestly 
can't see it attracting younger fans who listen to dance/remixed music.

So what have the band got to lose by releasing some info to the FANS, 
because when all is said and done, it is a fan only release. In which case, 
why not involve the fans as it will generate more interest amongst them when 
it comes to being released.

I seem to remember a competition on INXS.com where fans were invited to 
submit artwork. Another where fans selected their (fantasy) tracklisting and 
an album title. If it's a remix album, why not get fans to submit their 
bedroom remixes for the band to personally select from. Some of the bedroom 
remixes I've downloaded from Napster and Kazaa were better than some of the 
officially sanctioned remixes.

Iron Maiden did a fans 'Best Of' album and it went down a storm (Ed Hunter)

Am not trying to be critical here, just trying some constructive arguament 
on what has become a relatively stagnant mailing list that needs life 
breathing back into it.

Over and out
Rich



Pablo Sepzlveda Trueba


From: Gaz Kitty [mailto:gazkitty@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:06 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: RE: INXS: INXS²


Well, I can tell my personal reason, I didn't know about it. Although, now I 
feel bad for not knowing...


>From: Richard Davis <RichardJDavis1971@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: inxs@topica.com
>To: inxs@topica.com
>Subject: INXS: INXS²
>Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:51:12 +0000
>
>Is it just me or is there too much silence over INXS² ?
>
>I've been a fan for 17 years and will continue to be a fan for years to 
>come, but for the first time ever, I actually feel a bit non-plussed about 
>an INXS release. And it's nothing to do with it being another compilation, 
>because I looked forward to the releases of SLID Anthology and 
>Definitive/The Years.
>
>So why do I feel non-plussed ? Because nobody has sparked my imagination 
>about it. With little more than a month before it's released - no 
>tracklisting or artwork - just a release date and an online buying link.
>
>As has been said on the official messageboard, INXS² is designed to fill 
>the gap before the new studio album arrives (which is fine - better to have 
>something 'new' than nothing at all).
>
>But I can only see it being bought by the hardcore fans though - those who 
>continue to visit the  official site, and it might be an impulse buy for 
>the odd Australian shopper who actually visits a record shop. But I 
>honestly can't see it attracting younger fans who listen to dance/remixed 
>music.
>
>So what have the band got to lose by releasing some info to the FANS, 
>because when all is said and done, it is a fan only release. In which case, 
>why not involve the fans as it will generate more interest amongst them 
>when it comes to being released.
>
>I seem to remember a competition on INXS.com where fans were invited to 
>submit artwork. Another where fans selected their (fantasy) tracklisting 
>and an album title. If it's a remix album, why not get fans to submit their 
>bedroom remixes for the band to personally select from. Some of the bedroom 
>remixes I've downloaded from Napster and Kazaa were better than some of the 
>officially sanctioned remixes.
>
>Iron Maiden did a fans 'Best Of' album and it went down a storm (Ed Hunter)
>
>Am not trying to be critical here, just trying some constructive arguament 
>on what has become a relatively stagnant mailing list that needs life 
>breathing back into it.
>
>Over and out
>Rich
>

From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@dragonmount.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:30 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: INXS: Re: INXS²



Yeah, it is certainly quiet, but honestly, what has there been to talk about? This INXS2 thing doesn't excite me in the least--never been into dance remixes. I hear all this talk of a supposed new studio album, but no talk whatsoever about who will actually sing on it, and it's already been stated that nothing Jon Stevens may have done before he split will be part of it. So how are they going to go about introducing what fans are left to the NEW new singer this time? Are they going to do the occassional corporate sponsored shows playing their hits, and then tour the world over the course of two or three years to introduce everyone to that singer? Basically, follow the same pattern as they did with JS and risk losing that singer because they won't actually record anything new??? Or are they going to record the album and release it before they do any shows? Who's even under consideration to be the singer? There was some talk of the Baby Animals singer, but nothing confirmed, and no talk since JS left. I remember hearing about a chat done in December where even Kirk himself admitted the band was in "limbo". That's pretty telling.

Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on, and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America, but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia, since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on? I'm grateful I was able to see them one more time when they toured America in 02 with JS, so for that I can say I had some sort of closure, but now it feels like they just wasted their last best shot.





From: "Richard Davis" <RichardJDavis1971@hotmail.com>
To: <inxs@topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: INXS: INXS²


Is it just me or is there too much silence over INXS² ?

I've been a fan for 17 years and will continue to be a fan for years to 
come, but for the first time ever, I actually feel a bit non-plussed about 
an INXS release. And it's nothing to do with it being another compilation, 
because I looked forward to the releases of SLID Anthology and 
Definitive/The Years.

So why do I feel non-plussed ? Because nobody has sparked my imagination 
about it. With little more than a month before it's released - no 
tracklisting or artwork - just a release date and an online buying link.

As has been said on the official messageboard, INXS² is designed to fill the 
gap before the new studio album arrives (which is fine - better to have 
something 'new' than nothing at all).

But I can only see it being bought by the hardcore fans though - those who 
continue to visit the  official site, and it might be an impulse buy for the 
odd Australian shopper who actually visits a record shop. But I honestly 
can't see it attracting younger fans who listen to dance/remixed music.

So what have the band got to lose by releasing some info to the FANS, 
because when all is said and done, it is a fan only release. In which case, 
why not involve the fans as it will generate more interest amongst them when 
it comes to being released.

I seem to remember a competition on INXS.com where fans were invited to 
submit artwork. Another where fans selected their (fantasy) tracklisting and 
an album title. If it's a remix album, why not get fans to submit their 
bedroom remixes for the band to personally select from. Some of the bedroom 
remixes I've downloaded from Napster and Kazaa were better than some of the 
officially sanctioned remixes.

Iron Maiden did a fans 'Best Of' album and it went down a storm (Ed Hunter)

Am not trying to be critical here, just trying some constructive arguament 
on what has become a relatively stagnant mailing list that needs life 
breathing back into it.

Over and out
Rich

From: lrm99@juno.com [mailto:lrm99@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:40 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


 
> Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I 
> hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years 
> since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on, 
> and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they 
> could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America, 
> but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia, 
> since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could 
> surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you 
> could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and 
> he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on? 

I pretty much agree with everything you have said.  I think it is one of
those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
serious business.  Linda

From: Michael & Sherrianne Talon [mailto:xssive@iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:08 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


The tracklisting is now available at HMV, no surprises, if anything it's 
a compilation to formula if there ever was one.

M Kick Talon

lrm99@juno.com wrote:

> 
>  
>
>>Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I 
>>hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years 
>>since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on, 
>>and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they 
>>could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America, 
>>but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia, 
>>since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could 
>>surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you 
>>could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and 
>>he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on? 
>>    
>>
>
>I pretty much agree with everything you have said.  I think it is one of
>those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
>serious business.  Linda
>

From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@dragonmount.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:59 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


Yeah, I think it's time for them to lay INXS to rest. I mean, officially.
I'm not saying to stop performing, and certainly not to stop performing
together as a group, but if they want to move on and start off new, they
need to let "INXS" go and change their name. Just about everybody who is not
a hardcore fan of INXS assumes INXS was finished when Hutch died, and few
people if any are probably even aware of Jon Stevens' involvement over the
past three years or so. This is reality.

Until JS left, I supported the group sticking with the name INXS. But him
leaving made me realize that "INXS" is probably 99% of the reason he didn't
work out. I don't think he was fully respected as an equal partner in the
band dynamic, and he indicated some interviews I read after he announced he
was leaving that the others weren't responsive to his ideas. How much of
this came down to "Well, that's not what 'INXS' would do", or "That's not
our--INXS'--sound"??? I mean on a subconscious level how much did this
impact them? I think they are basically pigeonholed by what "INXS" stands
for and this severely limits their ability to go forward with new things.

I would be willing to bet that if they had dropped the name INXS and came up
with a new one, Jon Stevens collaboration with them would have totally
worked out. He'd still be with them. With a new name they'd be able to take
someone like JS as an equal partner with no history or legacy to pre-occupy
them. Or, maybe they should join JS band Noiseworks and see how the shoe
fits on the other foot!!!!!!

Seriously, I think anybody they take in as a new singer for "INXS" is going
to have the same dead-end experience JS eventually did and nothing
substantive will come of it. I want to see them continue as a group, and to
perform the old songs, but how seriously can anybody take them if they keep
ditching singers every couple of years, touring on the same old hits with
nothing new to offer (the website's insistence to the contrary
notwithstanding)???

I bet if they called up JS today and told him they wanted to reform under a
new name with no strictures he would go for it in a heartbeat. It was
obvious he wanted to do new music with them. But ultimately, they need to
put INXS to rest and start a new "band" with a new name.



rom: Michael & Sherrianne Talon [mailto:xssive@iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:42 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


1 DON'T LOSE YOUR HEAD (LEADSTATION SOLID GOLD MIX) (4:27)
2 BITTER TEARS (LORIMER 12" MIX) (6:27)
3 ORIGINAL SIN (EPIC ADVENTURE) (9:06)
4 PRECIOUS HEART (TALL PAUL VS. INXS - RADIO EDIT) (3:34)
5 NEW SENSATION (THE BEGINERZ MIX) (6:39)
6 DISAPPEAR (MORALES 12" MIX) (6:34)
7 ONE OF MY KIND (ROGUE TRADERS VS. INXS - RADIO EDIT) (3:19)
8 EVERYTHING (JAXX CLUB VOCAL) (6:39)
9 TIGHT (THE AUTOMATOR MIX) (4:34)
10 I'M SO CRAZY (PAR-T-ONE VS, INXS - RADIO EDIT) (3:08)
11 SUICIDE BLONDE (OAKENFOLD MILK MIX) (5:40)
12 THE STRANGEST PARTY (THESE ARE THE TIMES) (APOLLO 440 MIX) (6:45)
13 TASTE IT (YOUTH 12" MIX) (4:41)
14 WHAT YOU NEED (COLDCUT FORCE MIX 13 EDIT) (3:49)
15 SEARCHING (LEADSTATION RADIO MIX) (4:19)

Michael & Sherrianne Talon wrote:

> The tracklisting is now available at HMV, no surprises, if anything 
> it's a compilation to formula if there ever was one.
>
> M Kick Talon
>
> lrm99@juno.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I 
>>> hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years 
>>> since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on, 
>>> and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they 
>>> could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America, 
>>> but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia, 
>>> since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could 
>>> surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you 
>>> could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and 
>>> he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on?
>>
>>
>> I pretty much agree with everything you have said. I think it is one of
>> those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
>> serious business. Linda

From: Michael & Sherrianne Talon [mailto:xssive@iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:52 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


I think the biggest indication of Jon Stevens subordinate role is in his 
introduction to the band, he was billed as the "seventh member".   None 
of the others have a number attached to their labels....they are simply 
members of INXS.   Suzi De Marchi would suffer the same fate, being from 
another Australian Band that called it quits (Baby Animals), status 
within a band that has been around for twenty years plus is not 
something acquired easily I guess.  Michael still has more say from 
wherever he is than any other leadsinger possibly could.

That's a little embarassing for the remaining members, and the longer 
they put off the new music puts it further in doubt.  I guess in the 
recording studio the band just can't sense that magic anymore, 
apparently they have written heaps of new music but none of it good 
enough for us to hear in the final form.   The idea that Hutch could 
never be replaced is something the band has yet to overcome, most INXS 
fans have got past it and they wait (or not) for the band to take their 
medicine.

I would have preferred this Squared release be all new remixes rather 
than just b-sides but that's not up to me :(.

To end on a positive note, atleast with Squared, INXS have released an 
album that has some singles with recent chart presence (The 3 'vs' 
releases).

Michael Kick Talon

Brian the Rice wrote:

>Yeah, I think it's time for them to lay INXS to rest. I mean, officially.
>I'm not saying to stop performing, and certainly not to stop performing
>together as a group, but if they want to move on and start off new, they
>need to let "INXS" go and change their name. Just about everybody who is not
>a hardcore fan of INXS assumes INXS was finished when Hutch died, and few
>people if any are probably even aware of Jon Stevens' involvement over the
>past three years or so. This is reality.
>
>Until JS left, I supported the group sticking with the name INXS. But him
>leaving made me realize that "INXS" is probably 99% of the reason he didn't
>work out. I don't think he was fully respected as an equal partner in the
>band dynamic, and he indicated some interviews I read after he announced he
>was leaving that the others weren't responsive to his ideas. How much of
>this came down to "Well, that's not what 'INXS' would do", or "That's not
>our--INXS'--sound"??? I mean on a subconscious level how much did this
>impact them? I think they are basically pigeonholed by what "INXS" stands
>for and this severely limits their ability to go forward with new things.
>
>I would be willing to bet that if they had dropped the name INXS and came up
>with a new one, Jon Stevens collaboration with them would have totally
>worked out. He'd still be with them. With a new name they'd be able to take
>someone like JS as an equal partner with no history or legacy to pre-occupy
>them. Or, maybe they should join JS band Noiseworks and see how the shoe
>fits on the other foot!!!!!!
>
>Seriously, I think anybody they take in as a new singer for "INXS" is going
>to have the same dead-end experience JS eventually did and nothing
>substantive will come of it. I want to see them continue as a group, and to
>perform the old songs, but how seriously can anybody take them if they keep
>ditching singers every couple of years, touring on the same old hits with
>nothing new to offer (the website's insistence to the contrary
>notwithstanding)???
>
>I bet if they called up JS today and told him they wanted to reform under a
>new name with no strictures he would go for it in a heartbeat. It was
>obvious he wanted to do new music with them. But ultimately, they need to
>put INXS to rest and start a new "band" with a new name.
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>>Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I
>>>hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years
>>>since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on,
>>>and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they
>>>could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America,
>>>but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia,
>>>since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could
>>>surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you
>>>could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and
>>>he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on?
>>>      
>>>
>>I pretty much agree with everything you have said.  I think it is one of
>>those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
>>serious business.  Linda

From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@dragonmount.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:59 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


I don't think they meant the "number seven" tag as a bad thing. I think they
were anxious to convey the notion that they weren't "replacing" Michael;
that he's still a band member in spirit. Still, it's hard not to feel like
an outsider in that equation, I think.

To me, that band is paralyzed by their own legacy. Who knows the quality of
any new material they may have recorded? The three new songs with JS, Sugar,
Hungry and I Get Up, were solid, although in my opinion only Hungry could be
considered a really good if not great song. Sugar was good and would have
made a good album track, but the song they actually did release, I Get Up,
was very derivative of late-80s INXS and didn't offer anything new in the
way of the band's sound. All three songs have that INXS sound, obviously,
but at least Hungry deviated from their Kick-era sound and fit in more with
Shabooh Shoobah or Listen Like Thieves.

That's why they need to put the band known as INXS to rest in order to start
off fresh again and not be constrained by what they think "INXS" represents.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael & Sherrianne Talon" <xssive@iprimus.com.au>
To: <inxs@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


> I think the biggest indication of Jon Stevens subordinate role is in his
> introduction to the band, he was billed as the "seventh member".   None
> of the others have a number attached to their labels....they are simply
> members of INXS.   Suzi De Marchi would suffer the same fate, being from
> another Australian Band that called it quits (Baby Animals), status
> within a band that has been around for twenty years plus is not
> something acquired easily I guess.  Michael still has more say from
> wherever he is than any other leadsinger possibly could.
>
> That's a little embarassing for the remaining members, and the longer
> they put off the new music puts it further in doubt.  I guess in the
> recording studio the band just can't sense that magic anymore,
> apparently they have written heaps of new music but none of it good
> enough for us to hear in the final form.   The idea that Hutch could
> never be replaced is something the band has yet to overcome, most INXS
> fans have got past it and they wait (or not) for the band to take their
> medicine.
>
> I would have preferred this Squared release be all new remixes rather
> than just b-sides but that's not up to me :(.
>
> To end on a positive note, atleast with Squared, INXS have released an
> album that has some singles with recent chart presence (The 3 'vs'
> releases).
>
> Michael Kick Talon
>
> Brian the Rice wrote:
>
> >Yeah, I think it's time for them to lay INXS to rest. I mean, officially.
> >I'm not saying to stop performing, and certainly not to stop performing
> >together as a group, but if they want to move on and start off new, they
> >need to let "INXS" go and change their name. Just about everybody who is
not
> >a hardcore fan of INXS assumes INXS was finished when Hutch died, and few
> >people if any are probably even aware of Jon Stevens' involvement over
the
> >past three years or so. This is reality.
> >
> >Until JS left, I supported the group sticking with the name INXS. But him
> >leaving made me realize that "INXS" is probably 99% of the reason he
didn't
> >work out. I don't think he was fully respected as an equal partner in the
> >band dynamic, and he indicated some interviews I read after he announced
he
> >was leaving that the others weren't responsive to his ideas. How much of
> >this came down to "Well, that's not what 'INXS' would do", or "That's not
> >our--INXS'--sound"??? I mean on a subconscious level how much did this
> >impact them? I think they are basically pigeonholed by what "INXS" stands
> >for and this severely limits their ability to go forward with new things.
> >
> >I would be willing to bet that if they had dropped the name INXS and came
up
> >with a new one, Jon Stevens collaboration with them would have totally
> >worked out. He'd still be with them. With a new name they'd be able to
take
> >someone like JS as an equal partner with no history or legacy to
pre-occupy
> >them. Or, maybe they should join JS band Noiseworks and see how the shoe
> >fits on the other foot!!!!!!
> >
> >Seriously, I think anybody they take in as a new singer for "INXS" is
going
> >to have the same dead-end experience JS eventually did and nothing
> >substantive will come of it. I want to see them continue as a group, and
to
> >perform the old songs, but how seriously can anybody take them if they
keep
> >ditching singers every couple of years, touring on the same old hits with
> >nothing new to offer (the website's insistence to the contrary
> >notwithstanding)???
> >
> >I bet if they called up JS today and told him they wanted to reform under
a
> >new name with no strictures he would go for it in a heartbeat. It was
> >obvious he wanted to do new music with them. But ultimately, they need to
> >put INXS to rest and start a new "band" with a new name.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I
> >>>hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years
> >>>since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on,
> >>>and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they
> >>>could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America,
> >>>but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia,
> >>>since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could
> >>>surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you
> >>>could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and
> >>>he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I pretty much agree with everything you have said.  I think it is one of
> >>those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
> >>serious business.  Linda

From: Patricia [mailto:grahampat_98@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:02 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS2


I have to say that I believe, having a son who is a musician, that real good musicians crave writing music and performing their music like other people crave eating, breathing and whatever else their passion is.  I am sorry to say that if Michael took **their** passion for music to the grave with him, that is a sad commentary on the remaining members of the band.   And if his passing paralyzed them to the degree that it "appears" to have, then that is terribly sad as well.
 
I still think that Michael was an integral part of the band, but hey, its 2004 now guys!!!!  If one of my relatives were still incapacitated by the death of someone close to them, I'd have them to a counselor getting therapy.
 
I know that I lurk all the time, but I am saddened by where INXS has ended up, with all the talent they have amongst themselves.  What a waste of several musical lives!!!
 
Patricia
 


Michael & Sherrianne Talon <xssive@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
I think the biggest indication of Jon Stevens subordinate role is in his 
introduction to the band, he was billed as the "seventh member". None 
of the others have a number attached to their labels....they are simply 
members of INXS. Suzi De Marchi would suffer the same fate, being from 
another Australian Band that called it quits (Baby Animals), status 
within a band that has been around for twenty years plus is not 
something acquired easily I guess. Michael still has more say from 
wherever he is than any other leadsinger possibly could.

That's a little embarassing for the remaining members, and the longer 
they put off the new music puts it further in doubt. I guess in the 
recording studio the band just can't sense that magic anymore, 
apparently they have written heaps of new music but none of it good 
enough for us to hear in the final form. The idea that Hutch could 
never be replaced is something the band has yet to overcome, most INXS 
fans have got past it and they wait (or not) for the band to take their 
medicine.

I would have preferred this Squared release be all new remixes rather 
than just b-sides but that's not up to me :(.

To end on a positive note, atleast with Squared, INXS have released an 
album that has some singles with recent chart presence (The 3 'vs' 
releases).

Michael Kick Talon

Brian the Rice wrote:

>Yeah, I think it's time for them to lay INXS to rest. I mean, officially.
>I'm not saying to stop performing, and certainly not to stop performing
>together as a group, but if they want to move on and start off new, they
>need to let "INXS" go and change their name. Just about everybody who is not
>a hardcore fan of INXS assumes INXS was finished when Hutch died, and few
>people if any are probably even aware of Jon Stevens' involvement over the
>past three years or so. This is reality.
>
>Until JS left, I supported the group sticking with the name INXS. But him
>leaving made me realize that "INXS" is probably 99% of the reason he didn't
>work out. I don't think he was fully respected as an equal partner in the
>band dynamic, and he indicated some interviews I read after he announced he
>was leaving that the others weren't responsive to his ideas. How much of
>this came down to "Well, that's not what 'INXS' would do", or "That's not
>our--INXS'--sound"??? I mean on a subconscious level how much did this
>impact them? I think they are basically pigeonholed by what "INXS" stands
>for and this severely limits their ability to go forward with new things.
>
>I would be willing to bet that if they had dropped the name INXS and came up
>with a new one, Jon Stevens collaboration with them would have totally
>worked out. He'd still be with them. With a new name they'd be able to take
>someone like JS as an equal partner with no history or legacy to pre-occupy
>them. Or, maybe they should join JS band Noiseworks and see how the shoe
>fits on the other foot!!!!!!
>
>Seriously, I think anybody they take in as a new singer for "INXS" is going
>to have the same dead-end experience JS eventually did and nothing
>substantive will come of it. I want to see them continue as a group, and to
>perform the old songs, but how seriously can anybody take them if they keep
>ditching singers every couple of years, touring on the same old hits with
>nothing new to offer (the website's insistence to the contrary
>notwithstanding)???
>
>I bet if they called up JS today and told him they wanted to reform under a
>new name with no strictures he would go for it in a heartbeat. It was
>obvious he wanted to do new music with them. But ultimately, they need to
>put INXS to rest and start a new "band" with a new name.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>>>Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I
>>>hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years
>>>since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on,
>>>and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they
>>>could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America,
>>>but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia,
>>>since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could
>>>surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you
>>>could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and
>>>he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on?
>>> 
>>>
>>I pretty much agree with everything you have said. I think it is one of
>>those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
>>serious business. Linda

From: Dagette Dillon [mailto:dagetted@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:27 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


I actually have wondered for a while now why the guys haven't dropped the 
INXS name and maybe gone back to the Farriss Brothers(i guess thats a bit 
close to Inxs) or something new ... I think that would open a few new 
avenues for them :)

I agree I think they are "pigeon holed" by the INXS name,fame and 
expectations ....

Lisa


>From: Brian the Rice <briantium@dragonmount.com>
>Reply-To: inxs@topica.com
>To: inxs@topica.com
>Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²
>Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:58:42 -0600
>
>Yeah, I think it's time for them to lay INXS to rest. I mean, officially.
>I'm not saying to stop performing, and certainly not to stop performing
>together as a group, but if they want to move on and start off new, they
>need to let "INXS" go and change their name. Just about everybody who is 
>not
>a hardcore fan of INXS assumes INXS was finished when Hutch died, and few
>people if any are probably even aware of Jon Stevens' involvement over the
>past three years or so. This is reality.
>
>Until JS left, I supported the group sticking with the name INXS. But him
>leaving made me realize that "INXS" is probably 99% of the reason he didn't
>work out. I don't think he was fully respected as an equal partner in the
>band dynamic, and he indicated some interviews I read after he announced he
>was leaving that the others weren't responsive to his ideas. How much of
>this came down to "Well, that's not what 'INXS' would do", or "That's not
>our--INXS'--sound"??? I mean on a subconscious level how much did this
>impact them? I think they are basically pigeonholed by what "INXS" stands
>for and this severely limits their ability to go forward with new things.
>
>I would be willing to bet that if they had dropped the name INXS and came 
>up
>with a new one, Jon Stevens collaboration with them would have totally
>worked out. He'd still be with them. With a new name they'd be able to take
>someone like JS as an equal partner with no history or legacy to pre-occupy
>them. Or, maybe they should join JS band Noiseworks and see how the shoe
>fits on the other foot!!!!!!
>
>Seriously, I think anybody they take in as a new singer for "INXS" is going
>to have the same dead-end experience JS eventually did and nothing
>substantive will come of it. I want to see them continue as a group, and to
>perform the old songs, but how seriously can anybody take them if they keep
>ditching singers every couple of years, touring on the same old hits with
>nothing new to offer (the website's insistence to the contrary
>notwithstanding)???
>
>I bet if they called up JS today and told him they wanted to reform under a
>new name with no strictures he would go for it in a heartbeat. It was
>obvious he wanted to do new music with them. But ultimately, they need to
>put INXS to rest and start a new "band" with a new name.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail in the coffin. I
> > > hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past six or seven years
> > > since Hutch died believing in the band and that they could go on,
> > > and for a while with JS they did. I didn't actually believe they
> > > could even come close to the success they had with Kick in America,
> > > but I felt at least they could be a presence again in Australia,
> > > since JS was a star in his own right there, and maybe they could
> > > surprise everyone with a hit single in America at least. But if you
> > > could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS seemed to be--and
> > > he was very patient with the band--then how are you going to move on?
> >
> > I pretty much agree with everything you have said.  I think it is one of
> > those situations where they mean well but just will never get around to
> > serious business.  Linda
> >

From: K D [mailto:inxsbabe@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:27 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: INXS²



I'm looking forward to INXS squared being released.  I buy dance music a lot 
as well as rock.  I'm sure I will be really happy with it!  I hope it's as 
good as Icehouse's remix CD Meltdown.

Karen in MD

From: Susan Daly [mailto:susan.m.daly@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:43 AM
To: INXS
Subject: INXS: Madrid


Sorry for the delay in this but I just wanted to convey my deep sympathies
to any of our members from Spain.  My husband and I sat horrified as we saw
the newscasts from Madrid and the devastation caused by the terrorists
attacks.  The footage of the walk for peace where millions attended was so
impressive.  Spain is a country I've always wanted to (and still hope to)
visit some day.


Sue

From: Patrice Payne [mailto:patrice2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:56 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re:_INXS2


If michael was live today i don't he would continue
with band he probably continue with acting
--- lrm99@juno.com wrote:
>  
> > Personally, I think JS leaving was the final nail
> in the coffin. I 
> > hate to sound negative, and I've spent the past
> six or seven years 
> > since Hutch died believing in the band and that
> they could go on, 
> > and for a while with JS they did. I didn't
> actually believe they 
> > could even come close to the success they had with
> Kick in America, 
> > but I felt at least they could be a presence again
> in Australia, 
> > since JS was a star in his own right there, and
> maybe they could 
> > surprise everyone with a hit single in America at
> least. But if you 
> > could run off someone who was as agreeable as JS
> seemed to be--and 
> > he was very patient with the band--then how are
> you going to move on? 
> 
> I pretty much agree with everything you have said. 
> I think it is one of
> those situations where they mean well but just will
> never get around to
> serious business.  Linda
> 

From: Jimavfc@aol.com [mailto:Jimavfc@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:21 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS²


Am more than a little disappointed with this tracklisting.  There's nothing new, or previously rare mixes at all!!

Jim

From: Deirdre [mailto:deirdreanne@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:13 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Madrid


I'd like to offer the same to all of our members who have been touched by this.  Indeed, the whole world has, but to those of you in Spain, I am with you in spirit.
 
I must admit that I am just now catching up on the news of this tragic event.  The day after it happened, we had a local tragedy in my area that has taken priority for my involvement and time.   But that's just the way it works.  We all have strengths and a place in things.  Some of us are meant to deal with things on a global level, while others, it seems, do best one person at a time, right in our own back yard.  
 
But my heart is truly with you.  I have never visited Spain, but I am of Spanish origin.  My great-grandmother immigrated from your country, and I am sure I have relatives there whom I have never met.  
 
Peace,
Deirdre

Susan Daly <susan.m.daly@comcast.net> wrote:
Sorry for the delay in this but I just wanted to convey my deep sympathies
to any of our members from Spain. My husband and I sat horrified as we saw
the newscasts from Madrid and the devastation caused by the terrorists
attacks. The footage of the walk for peace where millions attended was so
impressive. Spain is a country I've always wanted to (and still hope to)
visit some day.


Sue


From: Deirdre [mailto:deirdreanne@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:43 AM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS2



I'm good at lurking.  I've been doing that for a long time now.  But I have read through all of this thread of conversation, and I believe the last time I spoke up was on this very topic.  I agree with a lot of what has been said here, by Brian, Kick, and some others.  But I don't think that INXS need to call it quits.  I don't even know about a name change, but I see the logic in what you all have said about this.  Sure, Michael will never be replaced, but there is also some logic in re-releasing the old stuff.  I read a post on a message board the other day, where there were some thirteen year old girls going through a bin in a record store, getting all googly-eyed over Hutch and the original INXS.  Now, that's a totally new fan base!  Which leads to the question...what happens when these new fans get hooked on this band, and Michael is no longer around?  Hmmm...that could easily be solved with a new singer (or an existing member if he's not afraid to pick up the mic) and new
 material, released within a close timeframe of the re-releasing of old stuff.

But there is also a bigger issue here.  Several, maybe.  Creativity is a process, and I don't doubt for one minute that these five guys will continue to be passionate about their music.  They are cohesive as a group, but with the loss of Michael, they are having to redefine themselves.  While we, as fans, see this from a different point of view, we need also to look at this from a human perspective.  These guys lost their friend, brother, family member, and someone who was essential to their creative process.  I'm sure that they are working through their grief the best they can.  Who are we to define what they have gone through and what they are doing about it?  They have to sort it out for themselves, and I am supportive of that, whatever form it may take.  Who are we, as fans, to judge, simply because they are not living up to our wants and expectations?  Sometimes it takes a hell of a lot of pain and struggle to create a work of art, and it is my inclination that this may be what
 is going on at a psychological level with them, as individuals and as a group. If and when Andrew, Tim, Jon, Gary and Kirk are ready, I believe they will give us a creative work from their hearts that will be spectacular.  

That's all I have to say.  I'm going back to lurking now :-)

Deirdre


From: Pedro Queirss [mailto:Elegantlywasted_Pedro@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:55 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS2



 I guess i am one of those die hard fans that always
comes in defense of the band and everything they do, i
have to say that squared is not what i was waiting
for, but i have to understand that is because i am a
fanatic and have every b-side or remix, so i guess
many fans will find this cool, even though i feel they
should have included another 2 new/unreleased mixes in
there to keep fans interest in it.
 About INXS's future don't forget that Jon Stevens
left when they were finally ready to release something
new, isn't that strange? wasn't this what he wanted?
and according to an official post a few days ago he
kept a different management and that was what kept
postponing the album's release, if his heart was 100%
in the band, i don't see a point in 2 managers...I
don't want to get too emotional on the JS issue, as i
will treasure this INXS era, mainly because i saw them
playing 5 times together and they rocked, i wasn't
fortunate enough to see INXS performing with Michael
even though i am a huge fan for 14 years, so INXS and
JS was the best i got so far, and i have been to a lot
of shows believe me, they were the best, as far as the
new songs, i seem to be the only one who think i get
up is just a fantastic track, hungry was also classic
INXS, just never was really into sugar that much. I
sincerely hope they go on as INXS and they get a new
singer (male) and they get back on the road again.
This is just my 2 cents.
 Regards,

 Pedro

From: Brian the Rice [mailto:briantium@dragonmount.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:36 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS


I couldn't find that official post. Of course, it would have been nice if this was revealed when they parted ways. It's not like it's anything "juicy" or scandalous to have just said, "Hey, he's got a different manager than we do, so it was difficult to hammer out details on an album and who got what percentage of sales". 

What was said, exactly?

Brian

From: Pedro Queirss [mailto:Elegantlywasted_Pedro@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:48 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Re: INXS



 I can't remember wich was the post, but the title had
nothing to do with it, but i am sure that one of the
officials said that JS's manager kept postponing the
release of a new album...it was pretty much that.
 
 Pedro


--- Brian the Rice <briantium@dragonmount.com> wrote:
> I couldn't find that official post. Of course, it
> would have been nice if this was revealed when they
> parted ways. It's not like it's anything "juicy" or
> scandalous to have just said, "Hey, he's got a
> different manager than we do, so it was difficult to
> hammer out details on an album and who got what
> percentage of sales". 
> 
> What was said, exactly?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> --- Pedro Queirs <Elegantlywasted_Pedro@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>  I guess i am one of those die hard fans that always
> comes in defense of the band and everything they do,
> i
> have to say that squared is not what i was waiting
> for, but i have to understand that is because i am a
> fanatic and have every b-side or remix, so i guess
> many fans will find this cool, even though i feel
> they
> should have included another 2 new/unreleased mixes
> in
> there to keep fans interest in it.
>  About INXS's future don't forget that Jon Stevens
> left when they were finally ready to release
> something
> new, isn't that strange? wasn't this what he wanted?
> and according to an official post a few days ago he
> kept a different management and that was what kept
> postponing the album's release, if his heart was
> 100%
> in the band, i don't see a point in 2 managers...I
> don't want to get too emotional on the JS issue, as
> i
> will treasure this INXS era, mainly because i saw
> them
> playing 5 times together and they rocked, i wasn't
> fortunate enough to see INXS performing with Michael
> even though i am a huge fan for 14 years, so INXS
> and
> JS was the best i got so far, and i have been to a
> lot
> of shows believe me, they were the best, as far as
> the
> new songs, i seem to be the only one who think i get
> up is just a fantastic track, hungry was also
> classic
> INXS, just never was really into sugar that much. I
> sincerely hope they go on as INXS and they get a new
> singer (male) and they get back on the road again.
> This is just my 2 cents.
>  Regards,
> 
>  Pedro

From: Newlu4inxs@aol.com [mailto:Newlu4inxs@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:00 PM
To: inxs@topica.com
Subject: Re: INXS: Madrid




Deirdre and Sue, you are the reasons for me to respond.
I couldn't say it any better than the two of you.  Being half Spanish with 
French and half German....I feel the need to send my sympathy also.  
Unfortunately I have had too much drama in my life lately.  It is overwhelming at times, 
but I am coping.  People of Spain: you ARE a strong people.  I admire your 
strength.  My heart goes out to all who have been affected by this horrid act!  
If only the world could just put one day aside to just relax and maybe meditate 
- no thoughts of ill will or negative thoughts.  NO political talk for a day. 
NO church talk for a day.  NO talk that involves sides........just a day to 
be human and good.  If only people all around the world could speak in the same 
language (figuratively) to be able to COMMUNICATE and be honest at the same 
time.  World Peace would be awesome! (but I know P-O-W-E-R  is more important 
to world leaders)  
 I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but we all have one thing in common - a 
soul.  My soul is good and honest and I intend on protecting it until my next 
life.......
love to all,
Laurie